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Bristle Boy:
The 'discussion' rumbles on and appears to be quite divsive, which in itself is v unusual for the San Stef forum.
That probably tells a story about how smoking has become v 'black and white'.
I did not mean to cause offence earlier this week - al fresco smoking is fine - that's where it should be, but just be considerate to the tables near you. You wouldnt blow smoke over your friends on your table, so why slyly blow it over your shoulder to affect the table(s) near you?

When we were in San Stef in 2010 and 2009 both hotels we stayed in had no smoking in their bars but never enforced it. Did it spoil our friendships with people we met? No.......but it would've been preferable if the people we'd met had stepped outside to smoke.

As for the UK the smoking ban has been brilliant. Not going home without smoke smelling clothes or a hoarse throat (or coughing in the night) has been fab.
More people going to pubs to eat and drink - many families would not have considered a good pub  to eat, without the smoking ban.
As for the argument that pubs have suffered because of the smoking ban - complete rubbish!

Pubs have suffered because
(i) Peoples eating and drinking habits have changed
(ii) It's become much cheaper to drink at home
(iii) Rents from the brewers have vastly increased
(iv) The large brewery conglomerates have inflicted around 3 price increases/year on beer for last 30 years ( the govt tax take is small compared to brewery price increases every year)

As for smokers thinking they have a right to inflict their filthy habit on others, why not congregate in your own room and let each other inhale each other's putrid smoke - the rest of us, especially my 2 year old grandson, shouldn't have to.

Waspman:

--- Quote from: D@G on March 31, 2013, 02:02:16 AM ---You have a great way with words Jimbo when you attack somebody as having a "tiny mind" then say that most of the aggression has come from others.

I will agree though that this thread has run it's course and probably needs locking up.

--- End quote ---

Completely agree

Gavlah1973:
Brizzle Boy.....

Most pubs aren't actually brewery owned..... they are now owned by Punch and Enterprise Inns and the like who charge nigh on full list price for beer despite receiving hefty discounts and who also charge high rents.

With regards to Brewery Increases...... we deffo only put ours up once a year,  same goes for our competitors.  The amount does vary..... we only went up 4%....... Heineken put John Smiths up 2.5% but also reduced the ABV saving themselves about £7m quid in duty!!

I can't remember a year where any of the big boys put through more than one increase!!
4 % isnt a bad increase when you consider price of fuel and also the effect on hop prices the bad summers have had!!

Georgie2002:
My goodness what a thread that was!! I think my policy when on holiday is live and let live! I'm a non-smoker but would imagine it's wonderful to go on holiday and have the luxury of smoking in places you're not allowed over here. After all holidays are all about doing things you can't do back home, eg. Drinking cocktails before noon!! One of my favourite things to do!!  :o  ;D

Gavlah1973:
You loose woman!!!

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