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Georgie2002:
Ha!!

Rover:
Well, it certainly hasn't been a "drag" has it?

Bristle Boy:

--- Quote from: Gavlah1973 on March 31, 2013, 04:56:04 PM ---Brizzle Boy.....

Most pubs aren't actually brewery owned..... they are now owned by Punch and Enterprise Inns and the like who charge nigh on full list price for beer despite receiving hefty discounts and who also charge high rents.

With regards to Brewery Increases...... we deffo only put ours up once a year,  same goes for our competitors.  The amount does vary..... we only went up 4%....... Heineken put John Smiths up 2.5% but also reduced the ABV saving themselves about £7m quid in duty!!

I can't remember a year where any of the big boys put through more than one increase!!
4 % isnt a bad increase when you consider price of fuel and also the effect on hop prices the bad summers have had!!

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Yes i know.
My wife's parents used to be leaseholders (when they were alive) - i worked in a pub for 3 years many years ago; my current boss owns a pub.
I know how much pub landlords/ladies have to pay but it's a fact that the beer suppliers increase their prices each year far more than the govt tax - has been for years.
Just look at the balance sheets of the large brewery conglomorates - huge profits. They've only got themselves to blame for less customefs using the pubs and turning to cheap supermarket drinks.

It's a fact that beer inflation in pubs has been double normal inflation for last 30 years.

Gavlah1973:
Agree to an extent but if you look at a single pint...... pub makes more profit on that pint than the brewer!! Way more.

I make around 20-22% margin....... Free Trade pubs make around 55% with some as high as 70%. Obviously brewers sell millions of pints when compared to an individual pub.
Brewery I work for is building 25 new managed house per year. Creating jobs and investing in the industry!  Good beer and good value food!

tonyco1:
Good Beer - debatable -
So it's Marstons Light Ale v Mythos

I'll have a Mythos any time.... LOL

TIP:
Marstons should sell Mythos and profits will expand once more -
the populous will rush out to pubs again and the Greek economy will be re-born -
Europe will collectively shout "Yammas"......

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