Good post there Gillie, tolerance , live and let live values come through in yours and many posts on this thread, values and rules for living that we certainly share , and have brought our children up to appreciate.I was in two minds before posting. It was triggered after we had an expensive meal spoilt by regular smoking from all sides around our evening meal. Just wondered what people thought? where the line is etc? I got the feeling that as the smokers were in the majority, all engaging in the habit, that they no longer felt they needed to consider the comfort of others. Not one smoker asked if it would be a problem for us or our child. I wonder if over time regular smokers become entirely desensitised to the smell and impact of smoke in semi alfresco environments. I have choice were I travel to, how close I would sit my children to fire shows etc. I'm certainly not a health and safety guru, but given the choice , I would, without fuss or judgement , always attempt to sit my family away from other people's smoke, especially when eating. Given the present management of smoking in the uk it can be a bit of a shock on holiday, especially for children.