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Waspman:
--- Quote from: Rover on August 29, 2013, 11:10:05 PM ---This is a topic which has been discussed many times. I suspect that if owners can make more money by going independent, they will do so. I do not know the full details of the financial arrangements, but I do find the Thomson knocking a little tiresome. If you do not like them, use Thomas Cook, or some other company, or arrange your own visit.
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ROVER, if you could get 30 euros a night per room (privately) apposed to the 5-8 euros a night from Thomson's what would you choose??
Unlike you, I do have first hand knowledge of many hotel's financial arrangements with Thomson's.
The owners of many hotels in Agios (San) Stefanos cannot offer all of their rooms as independent as they do not have the global marketing to accommodate them all, so they are offered to Thomson as this is a "Thomson Town". For example, The Romanza has 32 rooms with only 5 let privately, The Nafsika has 18 rooms with only 2 let privately, other hotels/apartments are similar.
Unfortunately Thomson's do dictate how many rooms an hotel owner can offer as "private"
If you find "Thomson knocking a little tiresome" and expect them to use Thomas Cook where would you like them to stay? Kapetanios, Mythos and Vicky are the only accommodation Thomas Cook offer.
Thomson tiresome knocking is well deserved
D@G:
--- Quote from: Gavlah1973 on August 29, 2013, 10:24:12 PM ---Romanza told us €8 pppn for room and brekkie..... And folk still slagged the breakfasts!!!
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If the breakfasts were not up to standard, folk would have every right to complain, regardless of how much money the hotel receives from the tour operator. (I only stayed for 1 night before my wedding and the brekkie was adequate, nothing more nothing less imo)
The Romanza does just fine from its contract with Thomsons. I went up a couple of times in early June, the pool bar was busy, plenty of people were eating at lunch and the restaurant was busy the 2 nights we passed. Most of the customers were guests on Thomson packages. If the Romanza were getting screwed over, they have enough loyal customers to go fully independent and would have done that long ago and fair play to them if they did.
A different story down at the Perros in May/June though, which i found very unfortunate. When I stayed with them in 2006 they were with first choice, the place was packed, every room full and the restaurant / bar was rocking every night. BBQs and Greek dancing was the norm. Not this year though, the place was deserted with only a couple of guests staying, I truly hope the high season was far far busier for them as they are such a nice sincere family who will do anything to help their guests enjoy their stay.
If I felt Thomsons were treating their hotel owners unfairly (which i dont) I'd be booking an easyjet flight and be booking to stay at the Perros.
Jimbo:
Okay - let's do it for the hundredth time.
I totally agree that Thomson treat the owners like peasants. For example, refusing to let them know the room bookings until too close to the time - less than a week, usually.
But - and it's a big but - without the brochure and on-line visibility of Thomson the village would be about 25% the size. The apartment owners do not have aeroplanes, ABTA certification, advertising, shops and all the other things that tour operators have. All this comes at a cost. How many times do we see messages on this forum asking how to get in touch with hotel/apartment owners?
The key point - it seems to me - is that Thomson promote and introduce people to the village. Then, perhaps, they want to go back making their own way. Is there enough critical mass for that to survive?
D@G:
I agree with Jimbo on this (never thought I'd say that) :-X :D
Waspman:
--- Quote from: Jimbo on August 30, 2013, 01:03:52 AM ---
The key point - it seems to me - is that Thomson promote and introduce people to the village. Then, perhaps, they want to go back making their own way. Is there enough critical mass for that to survive?
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You're probably right Jimbo but I'll go private when it's in my financial interests!
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