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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 20, 2013, 07:32:30 PM »
I have to share this.  Been shopping in a nearby town today.  I picked up a couple of charity shop books and sat on a bench reading while I waited for my husband.  A lady sat down at the far end and I gave her a friendly smile.  She said 'I'm not being anti-social but I want a ciggie so I'll just sit here and turn away'.  I nearly fell off the bench laughing.  Luckily a woman called to her and she left, so I didn't have to explain myself.

Just my type of smoker - polite and courteous.

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 20, 2013, 01:26:27 PM »
I really did not intend to post again and I don't think I will get involved in any other topic.

I just wanted to answer Jimbo's recommendations on non-smoking tavernas.

I have never in all the 8 years I have been coming to San Stefanos, at different times of year. seen any non-smoking tables in Little Prince.  Are they the 2 tables you have to vacate when they set them alight?

We have been to Nafsika twice.  The first time we were waiting for our food when a coach arrived and 6/8 people, with cases, went inside.  They came out shortly and were greeted effusively by the, I assume, owner and waiters.  We were still waiting for our food when they got served!  We decided, another year, to give it a second chance.  Both our main choices were either sold out or unavailable.  We haven't been back since.

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 18, 2013, 10:36:49 PM »
Lilly

I have never posted on this or any other forum.  As I said in my original post it has never been a problem in the past, only this year.

See my post on the Delfino Blue topic and you will see how much I love Greece and San Stefanos.

Sadly this will be my last post as I dislike the 'gang' mentality I have encountered here.

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 18, 2013, 10:04:29 PM »
I also find it strange that some people who smoke don't mind the smell on their clothes.  Could it be because they hold their cigs at arms length or over the shoulder, wafting smoke on the people behind.

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 18, 2013, 08:08:21 PM »
Lilly

Wish I'd had my TCP Eau de Perfume with me in Yiannis, I would have been a happy bunny.

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 18, 2013, 07:23:22 PM »
Jimbo

 'obnoxious'. 'low life' - both your terms for smokers, not mine.  You know them personally do you?

You've lost me on the ants and muscles!

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 18, 2013, 05:46:19 PM »
By the way, the 'upended table' comment was a joke.  We are in our seventies and one of the smokers was a big, muscly, tattood lad in his twenties.

I think it was your initial 'tough' response that elicited it, as that was the response I had envisaged from him if I had asked politely for him to refrain.

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 18, 2013, 05:19:37 PM »
Three actually Jimbo.  Don't forget the smoking!

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 18, 2013, 11:53:47 AM »
Gillywoo

As you say common sense and tolerance should be expected anywhere not just in Greece.  Would you be happy to have your evening meal sitting next to a shirtless smelly person.  I don't think so.

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 17, 2013, 12:53:58 PM »
Loftyscot

As I said in my original post, a cigarette at the end of meal, when most people have finished eating is acceptable.  The four people on the next table lit up before the starters and chain smoked throughout.  In my opinion extremely bad manners!

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 16, 2013, 08:04:02 PM »
Jimbo - Point 1 - We were not asked if we minded.
Point 2 - Sanctimonious I am not, and what 'dreaming of fantasy' implies, I have no idea.
As for not liking to be challenged, pot and kettle spring to mind.

What I did hope for when I posted was some constructive answers as to how to solve the problem.  Obviously this is not going to happen with Jimbo shooting down anyone on this forum in flames if they dare to have a difference of opinion.  Did anyone consider the proposition of smoking and non-smoking sections of the tavernas or is this a point scoring discussion only.

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 16, 2013, 07:11:16 PM »
Jimbo - Just to clarify - I did not use the term 'obnoxious', that was your interpretation of them.  I said 'discourteous'.

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San Stefanos news and views / Re: Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 16, 2013, 06:51:30 PM »
Jimbo -I did not want to spoil the evening, as one 'smart Alec' reply such as yours and my husband might have up-ended their table!

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San Stefanos news and views / Smoking in Tavernas
« on: September 16, 2013, 06:16:42 PM »
Hi, this is my first post on this forum.

We have been coming to San Stefanos for 8 consecutive years and returned last Monday having enjoyed a fabulous 10 days.

The only thing that spoiled it was the smoking in the tavernas and it seems to be getting worse.  We were in Yiannis one night and four people on the next table smoked continuously all through the meal.  Little Prince was another taverna where people seemed to smoke continuously, as against previous years when it was one cigarette at the end of a meal when most people had finished their meals.  We ate at Olympia 3 times and did not see (or smell) one smoker.

I really do think it is about time the taverna owners had smoking and non-smoking sections and ask as you enter which you prefer.

Sorry to bring up this controversial topic again, as I seem to remember a heated discussion some time ago but I do think a solution should be found, as leaving it to the discretion and courteousness of the people who smoke does not seem to be working.

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